>> morning.
>> good to be with you. by the way, i was going to say happy birthday. i remember as a child watching the "today" show in black and white television. congratulations on 60 years. that's remarkable.
>> i thought you were going to say as a child you remembered watching me on "today." let me say governor romney has a chance to do something no other nonincumbent republican candidate has done -- win iowa and new hampshire. if he pulls it off tomorrow is he the favorite for the nomination?
>> this is his third best state after utah and massachusetts. if he were not to win here however if it's close which it could be because he's been sliding now for four days, it is a defeat for him. this is a state he's bought a house in, he's lived in. he was governor next door. it's a state where he's been buying advertising since 1994 as a candidate in boston television which reaches most of the state. he was the prohibitive favorite going in. his position is precarious this morning based on the suffolk poll. he may be moving toward a surprisingly weak finish.
>> in the weeks before iowa you surged to the lead and then got a target on your back. you became the center of a lot of negative ads. face it, they worked. did they work because your support was soft? it seems it would be hard to shake firm support with negative ads. did they work because your support is soft?
>> well, they worked because my support had been based on positive ideas, positive solutions for creating jobs, heading economic growth, getting to a balanced budget . those are all positive ideas. 45% of the ads run in iowa were attack ads against me. i have to say with a fairly long career in politics that was a breathtaking achievement. when you would get up to eight or nine ads an hour attacking. six pieces of mail a day, four or five robo calls a day. i was thrilled we did as well as we did because we didn't go negative, we didn't try to respond.
>> right.
>> but it was clear you had to run a much more decisive contrast ad and contrast campaign with romney because you couldn't allow him to run false ads and get away with it and claim you didn't know. as you noted n the debate he first said he didn't know what was in the ads and then cited one of them.
>> there is a 30-minute film or super ad that's extremely negative about governor romney in his time as ceo. it calls him a greedy ruthless corporate raider . you can't have a direct contact with the super pac. are you in favor of the running of the film and do you agree with everything it says?
>> i have no idea. i haven't seen the film yet.
>> you've read about it.
>> i have, but what i have read said it's based upon historical facts. at some point governor romney has to hold a press conference and walk through in detail some of the companies that bane took over where they apparently looted the companies, left people unemployed and walked off with millions of dollars. look, i'm for capitalism. i'm for people who go in to save a company. i'm for people who take risk, grow jobs. sometimes you fail. i have run four small businesses in the last decade. it gets tough out there. it doesn't always work. i get that. if somebody comes in, takes all the money out of your company and leaves you bankrupt while they go off with millions, that's not traditional capitalism. in fact --
>> considering the fact that gov governor romney may eventually be the head of the party can't you hear president obama 's team saying this is a guy whose own party members called him a corporate raider , predator and ruthless?
>> any republican who gets the nomination is going to have axelrod and obama figuring out every way. they will raise $1 billion. as the governor said, this ain't bean bag . they aren't going to raise a billion dollars for fun. they are going to come after any republican. that's why a reagan conservative who is articulate who can debate effectively is much more likely to beat obama than somebody who can't defend their record. governor romney will have to defend what he did at bane. that's his record. he's proud that he wasn't in public office while i was, fine. he can take on my public record but he owns us a report on his stewardship of the private record. whatever happens this spring, it will be worse in september and october. we don't want to go into a campaign not knowing what's at risk.
>> nice to see you. thanks for your time.
>> good to be with you. thank you.
>> 11 minutes after the hour. here's ann.
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